Curse

MrGuildBoi · Jul 28, 2008, 11:38 PM // 23:38

Don't you hate it when you're vanquishing and forget to knock that pillar down that bridges over to the last few margonites to finish your vanq'ing run? I suggest that you make that pillar into something like the Solitary Colossus so that you can knock it down with Junundu Siege.

Here's the accursed pillar: !!!!!!

Lol @ posts below assuming I'm the one that failed vanquishing. This is for people that forget. I'm not one of them

MagmaRed · Jul 28, 2008, 11:50 PM // 23:50

Not hard to knock it over after fighting the undead just past it.
Not hard to knock it over while fighting the group of Margonites behind it.
Not hard to knock it over while fighting the group of Margonites across from it.

/unsigned because you don't know how to play that zone

ajc2123 · Jul 29, 2008, 12:06 AM // 00:06

Really should be targetable Methinks so...

yeah

Anduin · Jul 29, 2008, 12:42 AM // 00:42

One of the primary quests requires you to do the same thing, and wouldn't you know, it stays knocked down forever more.

There is absolutely no reason for this to not be the same way. I'd love to hear people try to explain otherwise. So far, their reasoning has been their failed attempts to be internet tough guys. Oh, how I do love these forums...

Tyla · Jul 29, 2008, 01:03 AM // 01:03

/Signed.

Help the uninformed!

Da Rk Bl Ad E · Jul 29, 2008, 02:18 AM // 02:18

/signed, could be annoying if you forget

Lykan · Jul 29, 2008, 02:27 AM // 02:27

well dont forget. oh no something is annoying lets get rid of it, maybe you should just call your mommies to help, wow some people have had life to easy.

MisterB · Jul 29, 2008, 02:45 AM // 02:45

Add a poll, please; I want to vote no. Thanks.

It's not a terribly difficult puzzle to figure out, and you can always look up wiki or ask in town. I'm pretty sure this column was intended as a puzzle in the first place. I believe it was designed this way to make you figure out how to use the Junundu's abilities to interact with the environment.

Arkantos · Jul 29, 2008, 03:03 AM // 03:03

Everyone who's disagreeing with this, tell me, what negative effect would this change have? The way I see it, there's only a positive outcome to this suggestion.

If someone can give me a good reason why it shouldn't be changed (lolnoob just dun forget!!11 isn't a good reason), then I'll say /notsigned. But until then, /signed.

Kanyatta · Jul 29, 2008, 03:09 AM // 03:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyla

/Signed.

Help the uninformed!

Yarly. Not everyone is a super-intense Wiki-user and knows this, and I've heard a lot of people who've wasted hours because of this.

/signed.

Lady Raenef · Jul 29, 2008, 05:04 AM // 05:04

/signed.

All who disagree are simply QQing.

Abedeus · Jul 29, 2008, 06:13 AM // 06:13

/signed

f'ing annoying and lame.

mrmango · Jul 29, 2008, 06:28 AM // 06:28

/signed I hope when I do that zone I don't forget to knock it down.

zwei2stein · Jul 29, 2008, 06:54 AM // 06:54

Pillar is prime example of bad game design:

* Unintuitive - You need wiki/forums to figure it out.
* Punishing - it basically punishes player for killing mobs / taking breaks.
* Stupid easy - if you know about it, it is just annoyance. There is no challenge.

/signed

cellardweller · Jul 29, 2008, 07:01 AM // 07:01

It is one of the few "puzzles" that GW has to offer. I enjoyed figuring it out and I wouldn't want to deny future players the same opportunity.

/unsigned.

Hyper.nl · Jul 29, 2008, 07:19 AM // 07:19

I also found out via wiki how it worked, after I could not access the area for cartographer title. It is a bit annoying because tricks like these are not used anywhere else in Guild Wars, so you don't expect to think outside of the box here.

My vote goes to make this kind of puzzles a bit more common, so they can be expected.

Lykan · Jul 29, 2008, 12:27 PM // 12:27

Why is it QQing that the game is a bit puzzling??
How about we just have a pop up for every mission that tells you exactly where to go and what to do and where to get the bonuses.

Games arent supposed to be easy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Pillar is prime example of bad game design:

* Unintuitive - You need wiki/forums to figure it out.
/signed

Ummm no you don't, just play the mission.

Jetdoc · Jul 29, 2008, 12:32 PM // 12:32

/signed...it should fall just like the Colossus with Junudu Siege.

zwei2stein · Jul 29, 2008, 12:48 PM // 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lykan

Ummm no you don't, just play the mission.

What mission teaches you that? If you mean bridge drop primary quest before Ruins of M, them it is completely different mechanic. Moreover, mechanic that lacks any of bad design disadvantages i listed.

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Anyway, what pilar is is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unwinnable - It is pretty much always considered bug/bad design nowadays.

distilledwill · Jul 29, 2008, 01:37 PM // 13:37

I agree that it should be changed. Nuff.